Caribbean Doctor Speaks the Truth on Caribbean Medical Schools

What’s going on guys? Dr. Jubbal, So in this video got a special treat for you all. It’s the one and only Dr. Tommy Martin. So he is a med-peds resident in Arkansas and he recently graduated from St. George’s University which is a medical school in the Caribbean. So I made a couple of videos on the Med School Insiders channel about you know MD vs. Caribbean you know, Is it worth it going to Caribbean, things like that so it is kind of a controversial topic you know. I do get occasional you know comments for people that vehemently disagree with me so I figure why not bring someone who actually successfully went through the Caribbean process and you know see what they have to say, so without further ado here is the one and only Dr. Tommy Martin. Kevin, thank you so much for that great introduction. Super excited to tell all your viewers about my journey going to the Caribbean Medical School, matching the residency on the first go at if they should even go to a Caribbean medical school. Just quickly as Kevin was telling you guys, I am a second-year med-ped resident at the University of Arkansas, so practicing here, plan to eventually be a hospitalists. So that’s kind of where I’m at in my journey right now. So Tommy let’s just dive straight into it, What made you choose going Caribbean versus MD or DO, which are the more traditional res which most pre-meds are you know advice to take over Caribbean? For me it was kind of a couple different reasons. I’d say first off, I was very naive, you know, I didn’t know much about any of it. Second off I graduated undergrad in three years so I went through my program very quickly and I wanted to go to medical school immediately. I’ve always been extremely driven and I wanted to get through undergrad as fast I could, get through medical school as fast as I could and start residency and so that played a big factor into it as well. As I was going through undergrad I did very well. I finished with a 3.89 GPA majored in biomedical chemistry and like I said I finished there in 3 years but I knew nothing about the MCAT. I didn’t know it which sounds for all of you pre-med surgery like “wow this guy this guy must be an idiot if you didn’t know anything about the MCAT” but I didn’t know that it was that gotta be that hard, I was kind of naive and ignorant, I guess, and so I just thought I’d go take the MCAT and crush it and it crushed me so I made a 17 on the MCAT which if you guys are with the new scoring system all of you guys are, that’s about a 487 so very very poor and so I’ve already sent in my application to all the US medical schools and everything like that and so I was just waiting to hear back from them and it was about December in to hearing back from schools, had been getting rejections of course with that MCAT score um I have put on the waiting list which blew my mind at one school and then in December, I got an email or a phone call from St. George’s telling me I should apply for their January class and I just said I know nothing about Caribbean medical schools, I don’t know you, I don’t know why you called me, I’m not going. That’s kind of like my take on it and then my aunt, she’s a doctor and her best friend is one of the biggest surgeons here in Arkansas and he went to St. George’s University and he called me and pretty much was like “Tommy you really need to think about this, I went there, I was successful, I’m doing really well now, you should think about it.” That is where the turning point kind of came. I was very torn on what to do and so to be honest, I sat down and cried and prayed and asked God what I should do and it was at that point where God give me a sign that I should go to the Caribbean medical school. This is middle of December so I applied, got accepted and started in January so that’s what made me decide to go there. Were you considering other options like other international schools, you know Ireland and any other kind like someplace in Europe maybe or was it pretty much just you know Caribbean or bust? For me, I knew nothing about anything except for this one Caribbean medical school and then all these medical schools in the United States, so for me, I wasn’t considering any of the other ones. Now that I look back on it, I should have done more research but I think even with that more research, I would have ended up at St. George’s University from what I know now and so no I wasn’t considering other ones but it is important for people to know there’s probably countless medical school for in medical schools you could go to. So I don’t want to make any assumptions but I am gonna say that the kind of the the idea that most, I guess, MD US MD students have and probably most US DO students have is that going to the Caribbean is usually reserved for students who weren’t able to get into US MD and DO programs. Do you think that’s accurate? I don’t mean to like be offensive in any way. That’s that’s like, Is that the reason that most students would go to a Caribbean program? So when you say most, I would say yes and I may be stereotyping as well and people could be mad at me but in my mind right now, I would say yes that’s the big reason but with some caveats okay and so with that being said, for me I probably could not have got into a US medical school with that MCAT score. Okay, for other people, it’s their age and but with them being too young still means they wouldn’t get into a US medical school. There was a couple people that were very faith-based, very faith driven that I know of that got him to very prestigious medical schools in the United States and still chose to go to Caribbean medical school which blows my mind and if I didn’t believe in God also I would tell them they were very stupid um but so for most people yes. When you say age, like I’m curious, what were something like the the younger the younger end of that spectrum? Because I also had some pretty young students in my medical school. 17 years old. Oh wow okay yeah I think our youngest was like 19 and I think it was like an applicant who had tried when they were 17 and then 18 and then they finally got in when they’re 19 just like. It’s insane so I thought I was young. I started when I was I think I was 21 when I started I thought I was young. My wife started when she was 20, she was young and then we had a classmate that was 17 and to think that she’s gonna be an attending at you know 21 years old blows my mind. I didn’t have the maturity personally so it’s a props to those people that are able to do it. So let’s say a student can’t get into a US MD or US DO school, at what point do you recommend you know, now that you’ve done the whole process and you’re you’re more familiar with it, what do you recommend for for what they should do next? Should they reapply a couple times? Should they go straight to D to Caribbean at the beginning? How should someone navigate it? You know to be honest that is such a hard question and there are so many variables that you kinda have to dig into and tease out to make that decision and so first off every single person will have a different answer for that and so I would say a couple different things to be thinking about that you have to think about. For me, I am a faith-based person so one, I would say what does God want you to do? So I’d say to be in deep prayer. If He if you feel that He’s leading you to go then I would say by all means go. If you feel He’s asked telling you to wait and go to a US school, I’d say do that. Second, think about finances depending where you’re at financially and if you’re willing to live a very frugal life for a while to pay back student loans. Why do I say that? Depending on what Caribbean or foreign medical school you go to, it can be very very expensive and so for example, I think from St. George’s and I’m speaking for a very large population of students but I would say very few of them get out of medical school with that less than $350,000 if not less than $400,000 you know and so that is very considerable amount of money and I think US schools and Kevin, you could tell me if I’m off on this but I think it’s maybe 180 to 200 thousand that they’re in debt. The average is like 198,000 most recently. You can see that that’s a lot more money that you have to pay back and the interest on that’s obviously compounding so that’s a big factor that you have to consider is if you’re willing to take on the that extra money. A third aspect, I would say, is what your timeline is you know if you are say 40 years old and you’re decided to go into medicine now and you’ve tried to get into US medical schools three or four times and it just still hasn’t happened, you’ve tried the over out and it still hasn’t happened, I’d say if you’re still dead set and you think God’s done you go to become a doctor, I’d say you might want to start trying the Caribbean because you’re you’re you’re time is ticking right and you don’t have a whole lot more time to keep trying at the US schools. You know if you’ve tried three or four times, I’m strongly in support of go to Caribbean medical school just because the way I look at it is if you go to a Caribbean medical school and you succeed you’re gonna become a doctor. When I say succeed that means you get through it you get through it do well on your boards you’re going to get a residency spot getting doing well on your boards and why I say that is if you take five years to try to get into a US medical school that is potentially five years of not attending a medical school in which later correlates to five years of an attending salary. On the front end it may look like you lose a lot of money but on the back end you actually could have lost money by waiting to get into a an MD or DO school so I’d say those are kind of the main things to think about but there’s definitely a hundred more things you know to think about if you don’t want to go away from family, probably shouldn’t go to a Caribbean medical school, if you have a kid if you have you know multiple kids, maybe moving to a foreign third-world country isn’t the best idea but people do it and do amazing. I have so many great friends that was at St. George’s had beautiful kids and they were completely fine so lots of things to think about. Yeah well said. I generally say to to my students try once maybe twice going MD or DO and if both of those times you’re not successful then consider Caribbean and generally speaking if someone’s a reapplicant, there are usually things that they can fix in their application beyond just numbers right because numbers are just one thing that we tend to focus on probably a little bit too much because they are objective and easy to compare but when you’re looking at personal statements and the actual you know your actual MCAT, working activities, your letters of rec, there are there’s so many ways you can improve it so generally speaking I do recommend people at least try to reapply once however if they do want to go into something that’s more competitive and we can talk about this in more in depth like the actual match outcomes yeah it’s almost going to plastics or derm or ortho or neurosurg then I would say you know you should probably really shoot for US MD and then if you can’t to US MD then do DO and if you can’t deep do DO then do Caribbean but understand that each step you know from you from MD to DO to Caribbean, you’re much less likely to earn that residents position in a hyper-competitive specialty. 100% I love St. George’s, I loved everything about it but even now with medical students that are tell me I’m dead set 100% I want to go into plastic surgery. I would advise them not to go to Caribbean medical school or not go to a foreign medical school because if that is the case it is extremely extremely hard to make it there. Now it’s possible but it’s man it’s it’ll be one of the hardest things you’ve done. So I’m gonna implicitly you say it is possible right because you know I’m sure that someone has like a friend or an anecdote or whatever so we did it it is possible but it just it’s very very very rare. What are some of the pros and cons of going Caribbean? because I think I actually think that there’s a little bit too much negativity towards going Caribbean and I think we focus too much on the programs which you can actually kind of explain through other factors which we’ll get to but what do you think are some of the pros and cons? yeah for sure so I’m gonna start with the cons I honestly don’t have too many and then I love talking about the pros so let’s just get the cons out of the way first. One this is everyone knows this so I shouldn’t even need to say it. It is much harder to get a residency spot. With that being said, you need higher board scores to break all the cut-offs after that you probably need to go on more interviews to make sure you secure a spot. With that you have to think of the interview cost and all of those aspects. Go into a Caribbean medical school not all of them are the same. St. George’s is incredible because we have about, I might be a little wrong on this, but they have about 50 affiliate hospitals where we can do third year and fourth year rotations where you’re guaranteed a spot at. Not all Caribbean or foreign medical schools have guaranteed spots in the United States to do those rotations and that makes a big difference when you get letters of recommendations so that potentially could be a con if that foreign medical school didn’t have that guaranteed for you. Another big con, you are miles and miles away from your family most times and that could be very hard to some personal experiences I had I want to say four family members that passed away that I didn’t get to fly back home to go to their funerals. My parents went through a very very rocky period not getting to be there for my family, I missed the years of my nephew growing up from the age you know of 3 to 7 because I was in a different country and so there are definitely some big emotional strain and with that emotional strain if you don’t have a good foundation if it wasn’t for my faith in God, there’s no way I think I could have taken the emotional beating being away from all that stuff that happened. Not everyone has those hardships while they’re gone and stuff but it’s still hard when you when you don’t do too well on a test and you need a shoulder to cry on, your mom and dad or your best friends aren’t around but there’s some pros to that like on that side of it as well and so I’d say being away from family is a big big con. Some little things is that if you go to a foreign country they may not have your favorite pre-workout or your favorite protein powder You you would be reading a pre-workout as this is the one thing that they don’t have. Okay so so for those who aren’t familiar, Tommy Martin is like super into fitness very very impressive in terms of like the feats he’s done, not only like the physical feats like athletically but even like how he’s transformed his body in that period of time so so make sure you follow him on instagram if you want to check that out. Oh thanks Kevin! I wouldn’t say very impressive but I’ve been trying working hard joking aside. Just even just your everyday thing so the soaps that you like, the deodorants, the detergents the food, all that might be hard to come by you know, so there was a time oh gosh I love Grenada but there was a time when the whole island was out of cheese you know like the entire island there’s just no cheese you know and so if you wanted to have a taco night it wasn’t gonna happen. Came over. so those are definitely I’d say those are the biggest cons the biggest one being it getting harder to get into residency and of course the expense of it we talked about that already. So going back to the expense is a pretty big con I mean that’s huge it’s almost twice you said 350,000? that’s almost twice the amount of well not quite but you know 198 to 350 is it’s pretty large especially when you incorporate that compounding interest is that because they have less like student loan options or is it because of the just the cost of the school is already higher? So you get student loans like if you are a US citizen you can give federal student loans to cover all of it so you could definitely get loans for all of the expenses. So sorry I mean not not uh not getting student loans to get not getting like scholarships and grants is what I am meant to say. So St. George is I think they’ve increased their scholarships by an absurd amount so now there’s a lot of scholarships I believe that they offer and so when I went there maybe not quite as much or I didn’t know about them so I know that they’re definitely trying to help with the financial side of it and don’t quote me on the 350,000 but I’m pretty sure it’s somewhere around that range. So what’s the thing that you enjoyed about going to the Caribbean for medical school? meeting my wife that was a huge pro. I met my beautiful wife Phoebe at St. Georgia so that was awesome, also the fact that everyone is in the same situation as you right so everyone’s away from their family, everyone that this is their one chance to make it right like this is their chance to become a doctor so the drive and the passion and the camaraderie that you get there literally is insane you know like everyone is trying to help each other literally it’s like one ginormous family right our class sizes were about a thousand students and I could I probably knew almost all of them you know and it’s just because everyone was in it together and that was so awesome to see when we go back to the states and we did our clinical rotations people were like wow like if you guys known each other forever like no we just we do Caribbean medical school together you know so like that aspect of it I wouldn’t change for the world. Second part is the ability to immerse yourself into a different culture into a different environment and kind of see what a third-world country looks like I think that’s something that every person should have the opportunity to see and to go help out in and so being in the culture in Grenada it was so awesome to get to know so many of the Grenadian, see what their lifestyle was like, see what their health hurdles are and how you give back so those things are very unique in that what you see growing up the US you see every day can and you’re gonna see that as a doctor as well but you don’t necessarily know or see what’s going on in different countries and so being able to be part of that and make an impact in that was also pretty awesome some other of the pros let me think oh it’s hard it’s like extremely hard the coursework was hard they in why I say that’s a pro is because they prepare you so well right if you can get make it through at St. George’s University and they give you all the resources, all the help, all the faculty to help you succeed if you make it through you are going to be prepared for your boards or you should be and so that’s a huge pro because St. George’s knows your only hope of getting a residency spot is if you do well on your boards so their whole objective their whole objective is to help you to do well on your boards so that you can make it into residency so you could be a great doctor and so the fact that it’s hard prepares you very well for the boards so you should succeed and do well on the boards so that in my mind is also a huge pro. Last thing, the ability this goes back to some of the other ones I was talking about but the ability to do community service and the fact that everyone there gets involved in that so there was multiple times on the island of St. George’s where we would hold fundraisers and raise $15,000 in 10 days to renovate these bathroom facilities at a school because they had just been destroyed Sending a kid to Jamaica to get a surgery and have to raise 5 to 10 thousand dollars to ship him there to get the surgery to save his life and to have a school that gets behind that and could raise the funds in 5 days time blew my mind and to be a part of that and witness that and to see love for humanity of people that you don’t even know is awesome and not that you don’t see that in the states but I think I just saw so much more when I was at St. George’s. That’s awesome. So a big point of contention in the US is the attrition rate being too high in the Caribbean and match rate being too low and I think part of that is due to the institution right if you go to a US program versus the Caribbean you’re at an advantage for multiple for multiple reasons however I think part of it is also just due to the student caliber because as we were discussing earlier on average a Caribbean medical student is not going to be as strong of a student on average so so yes you know I’m sure that you have eight to seven not not you but to the viewer who’s commenting right now I’m sure you have a 270 plus friend and and whatever but on average they’re not gonna be as strong of students so therefore if you took those same students on the Caribbean put them into a US program they would still also be less successful on average whereas if you took that the opposite you take these MD students you put them in a Caribbean school they would probably do better than the average Caribbean student looking at these these data sets is understanding the limitations of the data because you’re not comparing apples to apples right you’re by definition because the the different levels of competitiveness of the programs you’re getting stronger applicants in MD programs and weaker applicants and and weaker students in Caribbean schools. You know I think I would agree with that to a pretty large extent and why I mean you can make this simple argument that there cut-offs to go to the Caribbean medical school or like lower than the cut-offs for an MD school or DO school and we also talked earlier why a large population of foreign medical students or Caribbean medical students go there is because they struggled or had a hard time or something was lacking in their application do you into a state school so I think you could definitely make that argument and it makes great sense but I think there’s a couple things that muddy the water a little bit about that and one would be just the like I talked earlier the emotional strain and being away from your family and all these other things that goes with going to a Caribbean medical school so even if you take some of these really good US you know applicants if you were to put them in the Caribbean maybe they wouldn’t make it either because of that emotional strain and things of that nature and another thing is in the state schools maybe take some of these weaker applicants and I say I went to recruitment medical school I am a weaker applicant so no one shunned me for saying that one of the people that admits people in the St. George’s like gets them into St. George’s University I was talking with him one day and I told him my MCAT score he was like and we let you in you know so like I was at the bottom okay so no one get mad at me about that but anyway back to my point is if you take some of the Caribbean medical schools and put them into a US medical school I think those same applicants might have a higher success rate solely because of the fact that in the US schools the class sizes are much smaller, they have people kind of like holding their hands, walking them through the process and they need lower board scores you know and so I think that there’s a couple different things that might be the water a little bit but for the biggest majority or the the overlying picture I think yeah that is correct that the kind of people that have scored less on the MCAT had a lower GPA kind of struggled to get to it MD school they’ve probably still struggle in a US school but they may not either because the extra help they get. Yeah that’s a great point well said I think there are you know the support systems in US programs tend to be a little bit better from from what I’ve seen and for anyone who wants to have like a more in-depth analysis like this video by no means is like is a is a full picture of the MD versus Carribean debate but you know there are some videos on the Med School Insider’s channel that I did it was more structured more organized comparing each aspect so I’ll leave a link in the description below for you guys to watch that. So Tommy, what are some misconceptions that pre-meds or just people in the US overall have about Caribbean medical schools? For sure so I know you pre-med students are out there reading all the forms out there and so the biggest one I would say is that it is impossible to get a residency spot if you go to the Caribbean Medical School. I sit here as a second-year resident in med-peds at the my top-ranked program I only had to apply to match one time and I couples match with my beautiful wife and we both went to a Caribbean medical school and again something I want to tell you guys in again I’m not saying this to boast by any means whatsoever I share with you guys my little MCAT score but my wife going near Caribbean Medical School not doing the best on her boards was able to get over 25 interviews to her like her residency program of choice which was pediatrics and I was able to get over 20 interviews for med peds programs and that was both of us go into your Caribbean medical school and we were able we went on 15 of those interviews and couples match at our top university and so with that being said, it is very possible to matching the residency and to go to your residency of choice if you go to a Caribbean medical school but with that being said remember everything else we just talked about okay so remember that it comes with hardship it comes with a lot of sacrifice but it is possible in the end so I’d say that is one huge misconception another one that I’d say specifically about St. George’s that I read along the forms is that there’s no help that you’re just left you know hung out to dry and that is true if you do not seek out the help. There’s 4,000 to 5,000 students on campus if you don’t try to get help you’re not gonna get help right but I needed help my first term I got my butt kicked I went from making a 3.9 GPA to where my whole chemistry class was given to me in the first week in medical school and like I was drowning and so I wouldn’t got help I knew everyone on the whole campus by name and I had the most help possible and I’m not saying that they treated me any different but they knew that I like had this drive and passion to succeed and they had the resources for me I just had to ask for it and so I got a tutoring, I got help on how to answer multiple choice questions, how to study better, how to study more efficiently and after I went through these kind of programs that they helped me with like I did extremely well at their University and on the steps and everything else so misconception that there’s no help but really there is endless amount to help if you ask for it. So now you’ve you’ve done it you went to Caribbean medical school, you graduated, you’re now in residency, would you do it again? Would I do it again? you know it’s pretty personal with you guys and tell you about some family stuff that happened while I was gone and all those things but would I do it again? Without a doubt it was the best experience of my life so far and I’m biased and I will say that I’m biased because I met my beautiful wife at the Caribbean medical school I went to but even outside of that the things that had taught me, the life lessons that had taught me, the integrity, the camaraderie the hard work, the dedication and just the zeal and passion for becoming a doctor I think that translates into each one of my patients today there’s not a day that goes by that I don’t cherish being a doctor, that I do not feel the most grateful so I had the most like I guarantee I’m the most gratitude, I guarantee I am the happiest, I guarantee I’m the most jacked out of my face to be a doctor every single day and why is because I went through that process and it was hard but I made it through what I do to give a thousand times over again with the debt would I do it again thousand times over again with all the hardship I went through a thousand times over again I would have changed how knowledgeable I was about the whole process but given the circumstances I would do it all again. Tommy, it’s been such a pleasure having you on the channel, thanks for you know being very open and honest about your own experience because I think that really offers a lot of value to pre-meds and just those who are seeking guidance so thanks for coming on it was really a pleasure. Any any last words anything for the viewers? I’m gonna of course by the way guys, I’m gonna have links to Dr. Martin’s channel on YouTube as well as his Instagram down in the description so make sure you guys check that out. Kevin, first I just want to thank you so much for having me on your YouTube channel and to kind of talk about my experience in the Caribbean medical schools in general and just something that I’ll just end with to say to your viewers and the medical students and then something that always in my videos with. Whether you go to an MD school, DO school or a Caribbean medical school, it really doesn’t matter. What matters is that you wake up every single day with your future patients in mind and that you have the drive and passion to study with all of your heart, to work with all of your heart and to do whatever it takes to become the doctor that you’re supposed to be so that when you’re sitting in the room with your patients that all of that hard work and all of that passion that you spent working to be in that very moment shows forth in the way that you love them in the way that you served them. It is an incredible honor and privilege to be a doctor and so I don’t care what route you go to get there but cherish every single second of it and don’t forget how great of a privilege it is and just know that if you guys ever need any help whether it’s a shoulder to cry on, someone to talk to, you know that Kevin and I are here for you and I know that I will be praying for you guys every single day as you guys are on this journey. To end with, would always in my videos with that I like Kevin close the videos that uh I want you guys to know that you are greatly greatly loved and that you’re wonderfully and beautifully created and that you’re capable of far more than you could ever imagine Thanks so much Tommy. See you guys next time [Music]

76 Replies to “Caribbean Doctor Speaks the Truth on Caribbean Medical Schools”

  1. Hey doc, how come it feels like you bash D.O. and view as inferior to MD? They take the same boards and DOs seem to do just as well as MDs in the field. Also I know you think cranial sacral therapy is phony but the rest of OMM seems to be valid

  2. This guy could've easily made it to an American med school. Only if he studied more properly for the MCAT. Even a 500-505 would've gotten him into DO programs or possibly some US MD school.

    I personally wouldn't go there. But great video. Wanted to see the insight of what a Caribbean grad would have to say.

  3. I think many people dont mention that many students that go the Caribbean route are Canadian applicants – getting a Canadian Med school acceptance is extremely difficult and because of a lack of US citizenship, its also much harder to get into a US school. I've observed that many Canadian students going the Carib route do EXTREMELY well (they score 90%+ test averages consistently) and had MCAT scores in the 510-512 range. But a 3.7 GPA will kill a canadian students chances in Canada and US.

  4. What blows my mind is all the "faith on God" thing, is that because Doctors will do anything to please? or is it the US indoctrination?

  5. Only about 50-60% of SGUs white coat class make it to graduation, and only 80% of those remaining match successfully, with an even larger percentage of those who match not making it into their top 3 spots. All with 350K in debt. And this is the “Harvard” of the Caribbean. Don’t go there. Reapply.

  6. very interesting insight! personally im not sure if the pros would outweight the cons for me, but im glad its an option for others.
    also just to spread some awareness: referring to a country as "3rd-world" is being phased out and can be considered offensive. i think "developing" or "low-income" is more accepted at this point in time.

  7. “Not saying” that he specified that the entire Caribbean is third world countries
    Puerto Rico is a first world country

  8. I need someone from the University of the West Indies to comment because the last I heard was that they were in the top 5% in the world. Sooooooo idk….

  9. Let's be real here though. American and Canadian students are taking hundreds of thousands of dollars out for loans, and then work 80+ hours a week to pay back those loans, missing out on family lives, etc. Then their medical school gives random island people free living upgrades. Isn't that the job of their government? The medical students also provide free medical services. Something is not right there.

  10. I’m in my second year at Ross University here in Barbados. Obviously I would have loved to have gone to an American school but it just didn’t work out that way. I’ve been given this chance to realize my dream and I’m working hard so I don’t squander it. Congrats Dr. Tommy ignore these nay sayers.

  11. I think there is more to this that Tommy didn't explain. Many students, including myself choose Caribbean because they never built a US Medical school resume through out college simply cause they didn't know at the time they wanted to be a doctor! Most US medical students start preparing at age 17.

  12. what most ppl dont say is that at carribean school you will also have an MD..whereas some people are faced with the DO option in the US and they dont want DO…even tho DO is just as good

  13. Funny thing is, I thought he was a frat boy jackass at first look but Tommy actually seems like a pretty nice guy.

  14. I am really not sure about going to a uni outside of my city. I live in canada so its required by all med schools to have a bachelor's degree in anything really, my uni is in the top 150 and really good but i don't know if i should even consider going to another med school programe.

  15. I’m Canadian and becoming a doctor here is really hard. Does anyone think I should consider going to a Caribbean medical school?

  16. honestly I have had friends go to Australia, Ireland and the Carib which are all "off shore" schools to get that golden ticket to write the USMLE. Most of my friends that attended medical school outside of North America all scored well over 240+ on both steps (1 and 2CK) because they know that this exam score has to make them stand out as much as possible. I would say the biggest difference is how their exams were during basic sciences..for example some of these off shore schools did not have proper NBME- USMLE like questions/tests for their block exams…and some did not have any computerised tests and the believe it or not some did not even have exams consisting of any multiple choice questions/answers it was a test where one had to write out EVERYTHING. Im talking drawing out the entire blood supply of upper limb lower limb….When I told some of my off shore school friends I have multiple choice tests they completely freaked out and said I was blessed! For anyone currently going through their journey of medicine good luck and wish you all the best! And for anyone wondering if they should go off shore do your homework, ask the admin for information and even if they can connect you with an upper year mentor. There are so many options now on becoming a Physician in the USA and or Canada. Never give up!

  17. Something missed from this discussion is that while most students in the carribean are american there is a huge canadian population that are known to do way better than american students due to WAY higher cutoffs to their medical schools. So the “generalization” that carribean students would score “lower” in a US program is only applicable to US students. But also, theres also more international students in SGU which also balance it out… so idk lol

  18. I got friends in medical school in Puerto rico they're doing fine
    I went to nursing school in Puerto rico, the hurricane did not help but we made it

  19. Caribbean medical schools offer MD programs. Not sure why he always referred to it as MD vs Caribbean. It's the same program just that one is of lesser quality and will need the medical students to work harder to acquire knowledge and experience that US med schools normally provide their students. If you're self-motivated you can do just fine with a Caribbean med schoool. It's MD too!

  20. Love everything you're doing with the channel Dr. Jubbal! Keep up the great work and let's get a day in the life of EM. Had to put this out because it was really the only thing that frustrated me throughout the video. Everything else was pretty much spot on. The title "MD" is short for Doctor in Medicine. This title is not exclusive to the US. A Caribbean graduate is an MD just obviously not graduated from a US medical school. The distinction would be "Caribbean MD" vs. "US MD".

  21. Great video. I do not have an issue with what path people take but I do have a problem with individuals who mistreat others once they reach a certain level. I have seen Caribbean MD/DO's mistreat nurses, etc. when some of these nurses went to elite institutions. I do not get this vibe from this guy. Awesome story.

  22. This was a phenomenal honest interview. I find these personal interviews to be great anecdotal story lines that can viewers can really connect with

  23. Good day sir ,I am from India. Would joining be a good proposition for Indians to become America. Please please please do reply. Your advice will be very fruitful for all of us. Thanks from india.

  24. From someone with age on the other side of the spectrum, I am not applying to any schools in the US because I have a degree in Biology/Pre-Med. I have spent the last 15 years in the industry on the discovery side, physician side, clinical side, and some other aspects. The US will not acknowledge my degree because it is more than 5 years old. I got a degree from a fantastic 4 year university with a fantastic Medical school affiliated with it. The US wants me to take it all over again. I feel there is no need to do that. I have been taking some classes to refresh and helped with the MCAT, that I have taken. I do not feel like spending the money and the time to do all those courses again. Caribbean/European medical school is the best route for myself that I will be starting in 2020. I am following my dreams and they are allowing me not to have to spend more years to do so. Thank you for this video.

  25. Doctor Martin I am an Indian medical aspirant and I want to come to carribean medical schools for my Medical studies. There is one particular caribbean medical school, Spartan health & Science university in st. Lucia which is getting crazy promoted in my country by a lot of admission agents. I heard many of their grads are actually doing good and working as a physician in many states of the US. Is this university legitimately good for my prospects of my future as a doctor in US? I am confused and sceptic that I might be fooled by these admission agents, so I might ask it from an actual graduate who went to the caribbean. Will appreciate your help and response 🙂

  26. SGU is quite different than most of the other carribean schools. They also have a campus in newcastle england as well. After 8 years in the army im now term 1 at 37 y/o at SGU also Grenada isn't a 3rd world country.

  27. I know 2 people who are in plastic surgery residency in the US in 2019 and they went to Caribbean schools. Just saying.

  28. 487 is a very low MCAT score and regardless of your GPA, you will never get an invite for an interview even in the lowest tier medical school. I'm surprised that you did not realize how important MCAT is for admission or maybe that is just a lame excuse for your bad score. It pays to get a 4.0 GPA and an excellent MCAT score because that will pave the way to get into a 1st tier medical school then get an excellent GPA in med school which almost always translate to an excellent USMLE score and then you have all the convenience of selecting from the best residency program of your choice. But it is great to share your experience and inspite of, you are now in a residency program and soon will be a hospitalist.

  29. I will say tho, my girlfriend was just accepted into medical school here in the southeast US, and I am so damn proud of her. She lives, eats, and breathes becoming a doctor. 3.7 gpa and 504 MCAT

  30. Hi. My sister just got accepted to do medicine in a school in the Carribean Island. Please, can you recommend any scholarship or financial aid she can apply for?

  31. Big shout out to the one and only Dr. Tommy Martin. Go show him some love here:

  32. I'm starting to believe the caribbean medical school are deshonest and a total scam!! They are making my husband's life and mine so miserable!! he passed the step 1 but just because he couldn't pass the school examen he was dissmised i don't think that's legal and honest

  33. Thank you for the honesty!!!!! I literally just asked another YouTuber that’s a Caribbean medical student what’s the brutal truth about matching because I don’t see many matching into top specialties. I see mainly IM,EM, and FM. Which have plenty of spots he said he wasn’t to concerned about it. Like what?!? You asked every question a student thinking about Caribbean needed to know.

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